AeroVee Turbo FAQ's:
Q1: Can I place the order now and if so how much does it cost?
A1: Yes. You can order online, or download our AeroVee Turbo order form.
Conversion package is $3,995.00 (includes intake and exhaust) and $10,995.00 for the full AeroVee Turbo Engine Kit. 1/3 down secures order position with remainder due before it ships. It’s important to note this pricing includes the new turbo exhaust system (exhaust is a $445 option with the normally aspirated AeroVee 2.1)
Q2: Will the price be increasing on August 11th when the normally aspirated AeroVee Engine Kit price increase takes effect?
A2: No. The pricing will not be increasing on August 11th -- this will be the pricing of the AeroVee Turbo Package at least through the end of the year in 2014.
Q3: When will you be shipping Turbo Packages?
A3: The first in line will ship before the end of this year (2014).
Like all sonex products, these will ship in the order that deposit payments are received.
Q4: What kind of documentation will you have for the Turbo?
A4: The AeroVee Turbo will have its own dedicated Assembly and Installation Manual, written in the same illustrated format as the existing AeroVee manual.
This complete documentation package includes installation and maintenance manuals and a detailed packing list of all contents.
Q5: What kind of performance difference is there with the Turbo?
A5: The turbo is a 100hp package (+20hp over the normally aspirated AeroVee, which will form here on be referred to as AeroVee 2.1) with an additional advantage... at higher altitude, performance will not degrade as rapidly as it does with normally aspirated engines...this makes it a great option for those operating at high field elevations or those wanting to cross over mountains! The AeroVee Turbo package increases climb performance 200-300 fpm with the Sonex Family and increases speed performance at altitude by approximately 25 mph.
Q6: How much run time and flight time do you have on the Turbo?
We’ve been working on this program off and on since 2007. The latest turbo R&D efforts included extensive running in our test cell with the latest set-up running since June of 2013. Just in the last 10 weeks, we’ve put over 20 flight hours on it in N123SX (displayed in the Sonex Booth) running 4 different propellers.
Q7: How much does the turbo installation add to the AeroVee install weight?
A7: The AeroVee 2.1 (without turbo) weighs 160 lbs dry. The Turbo AeroVee weighs 185 lbs dry, so the turbo installation adds 25 lbs. Watch Jeremy’s Weight and Balance EAA Webinar in the archive to see how that impacts useful load and weight and balance. As we have done with the 3300 Jabiru-powered Sonex Aircraft Family, we have increased the gross weight by 50 lbs using the AeroVee Turbo being much more comfortable with the power-to-weight Ratio…especially at higher-altitudes and/or on high density altitude days. So you do not lose useful load. From a weight and balance perspective, the impact is minimized due to most of the weight being added very close to the firewall, so there is very little moment arm on it and thus does not impact the baggage or fuel capacity or pilot/passenger weights.
Q8: I understand the Nikasil Cylinders are not compatible with the AeroVee Turbo. Can I exchange these for a set of steel cylinders?
A8: Sonex will not be accepting Nikasil Cylinders for credit/exchange because we no-longer stock Nikasil Cylinders as an option for our engines. Comparable Nikasil Cylinders are selling on eBay starting at $550 per set, so you may be able to sell these privately.
Q9: I have a brand-new AeroVee Package I bought from you still in the box...can I exchange some parts?
The following two items can be returned for $200 credit against the $3995 upgrade package price:
ACV-P01-53 Oil Change Kit
ACV-M01-10 (Sonex) Intake Manifold Y-Tube
ACV-M01-16 (Onex) Intake Manifold Y-Tube
Also if you purchased either the Sonex or Onex Exhaust systems these can be returned for full retail credit against the turbo engine purchase currently $445EA:
ACV-E01-02 AeroVee Exhaust for Sonex
ACV-E01-03 AeroVee Exhaust for Onex
Note 1: Customers must contact our technical support department and obtain an RMA number before sending these items back. Once they are inspected and restocked, the credit will be applied.
Note 2: there are a few misc hardware items that you will not use with the turbo but the retail value of these is very small and these will not be accepted for credit.
Q10: I have an AeroVee I’ve been flying with....can I return those parts for credit?
A10: No. Used/run manifold and exhaust parts will not be accepted for return.
Q11: What AeroVee Options do you recommend I purchase with my AeroVee Turbo Package?
A11: We recommend the Air Filter Assembly ($60) and Oil Separator ($134). Customers who purchase the turbo may also be interested in the Top-Mount Oil cooler mount with hardware ($58), Assembled Crankshaft Option ($295), Cooling Baffle Kits which are the same between Turbo and Normally Aspirated AeroVee Installations ($154), and CHT Probes ($37/set of 2).
Q12: Will the turbo package work with the entire Sonex Aircraft Family (Sonex, Waiex, Xenos, and Onex) including the tri-gear configurations?
A12: Yes. We have worked the routing of the Turbo Intake and Exhaust Tubes to work with every available Sonex Aircraft configuration. The tightest fit is in the Onex Tri-Gear. Sonex will be converting our Onex Tri-Gear into an AeroVee Turbo this fall and will have FWF installation guide just like we do for the normally aspirated AeroVee.
Q13: I understand you have a permanent oil filter that I can install in my aerovee engine.
A13: Yes, this oil filter is lower-mounted and replaces the ACV-P01-53 oil change kit and/or the ACV-P02-20 oil sump plate.
ACV-P06-76 is $165EA and has an oil return fitting machined in to allow for an oil return line from an oil separator.
Q14: Are you going to run some tests on Auto Fuel with the AeroVee Turbo?
A14: Yes. We are setting up the next turbo set-up at 7:1 Compression Ratio. This will be run on auto fuel and the engine will then be moved to our Onex Tri-Gear (N222NX) Prototype for evaluation and testing. The results of these tests will be shared with the Sonex Community when they are ready.
Q15: What propellers do you recommend with the AeroVee Turbo?
A15: See our propeller order form for the two recommended propellers...a “sprinter” that optimizes climb performance and a “cruiser” that optimizes fuel economy cruise and top-end speed.
Q16: How can I learn more?
A16: Sonex will be appearing on an EAA Webinar this fall with more info on the installation along with a review of performance data. More summarized performance data will also be posted to our web site in the coming weeks.